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Educating three kids could cost family its home

10 Mar, 2010 03:00 AM
A PORT Macquarie couple would have to fork out $60,000 next year to send three children to university under a financial worst-case scenario.

Karen Proud and David Couchman could even have to sell their house to make it happen.

The family is caught in the middle of the uncertainty over the federal government’s youth allowance.

The couple has a blended family of six children – two are at university and another deferred this year.

Ms Proud agreed the youth allowance needed reform, but not at the disadvantage of rural and regional students who lived away from home to attend university.

“We are giving such a grim message about how much we value education in our country,” she said.

Ms Proud said there was no way the family could spare $60,000 a year after tax to meet accommodation and living costs for three children to attend university next year.

“We would have to sell our family home and consider moving back to an urban area as other people have done,” she said.

Lara Proud deferred a medicine degree at the University of New England in Armidale this year.

The 18-year-old is working two jobs during a gap year but doesn’t know what the future holds.

“It was such a hard decision [to take a gap year] but we couldn’t afford for me to go,” Lara said.

“I’ve applied for so many scholarships but, ultimately, it does come down to the youth allowance because we need that money,” she said.

Briana Proud, 20, is studying arts/law at the University of NSW in Sydney and 18-year-old Johanna Couchman started an agricultural science degree at the University of Sydney this year.

Briana has received intermittent youth allowance and Johanna will qualify for the youth allowance from May under the old system.

The federal government insists the youth allowance changes, which boost the hours students must work to become “independent” from their parents, would enable more people to receive the payments and block those who do not need support.

But the Coalition says it would disadvantage regional students.

The issue stalled in the Senate last year.

Caree Alexander also hopes her daughter, 18-year-old Natassja, will be eligible for the youth allowance in May after she took a gap year.

“It means we basically have to support her for five months of uni,” Ms Alexander said.

Nationals Senator for NSW Fiona Nash said the government’s youth allowance plan would severely disadvantage regional students.

She said the key issue was the inequity between metropolitan and regional students.

The Nationals’ Lyne candidate David Gillespie said the government was making it harder for kids in regional areas to go to university.

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I cannot say I actually understand this whole policy & the issues it causes however what is wrong with any student working part time while at Uni to support themselves? Actually what are we talking about anyway when it comes to $20000.00 a year expenses? Is it rent or food as is not the course free & payed back later when the student is earning money in the field of choice? From what I remember was no allowance payed to Uni students 30 years ago so how did they manage? Though I do agree a student living away from home should be payed the youth allowance or whatever it is called, can someone explain in simple terms why it is not these days?
Posted by sk, 10/03/2010 5:03:35 AM, on Port Macquarie News
The government needs to make education more accessible to all people, particularly young people as it is culturally accepted/expected in Australia that young people continue higher education once they have finished school. Liberals/Labor - it doesnt matter who is in power both parties have had ample time to address the issue of youth allowance. In my opinion, the reality is unless your willing to meet the independent threshold and 'waste' time before studying and ultimately entering the work force as a professional your family is going to pay for it, financially & emotionally. Just shows the governments commitment to Nation Building!!!
Posted by stones, 10/03/2010 12:47:22 PM, on Port Macquarie News
it is a ridiculous system. I am a current university student and i took a gap year. I worked hard and earnt my "independence money" within 12 months, not the 18months. I went down to apply for my youth allowence and was declined because i hadnt waited 18 months. So, when i started uni, my shifts were cut back and i had to scrimp and save for 5 months! What an idiodic system, but the new one seems no better.
Posted by eb, 10/03/2010 8:22:55 PM, on Port Macquarie News
Sick of people posing as deprived and demanding more more more from the public purse so they can buy the tools they want to practice the profession they choose. If you want to own a Taxi you must save or borrow the money to buy a taxi if you want to own a Piza shop you must save or borrow the money to open your shop. Why should the taxpayer in any way pay for the tools of trade (very expensive education) for the training of lawyers and doctors . Dont tell me it is in the interest of the country to have more doctors and lawyers, Australia is overloaded with doctors and lawyers all very busy over servicing at great profit the mainly city and coastal town dwellers.
Posted by bob brown, 11/03/2010 7:24:12 AM, on Port Macquarie News
This looks like a beat-up to me. While it may cost $20K to live away from home, there is a means tested student allowance and students traditionally supplement their incomes with part-time jobs. Senator Nash is on hand to make a comment and ask for more middle class welfare - gee - why didn't she fix it when she was in power for 11 years?
Posted by what the?, 11/03/2010 8:15:25 AM, on Port Macquarie News
maybe the answer is simply choose a uni course that is available thru port tafe campus or on-line by correspondence, that way the student can still live at home and work part-time.
Posted by poster, 11/03/2010 10:15:58 AM, on Port Macquarie News
yes what the? I would have also thought the student allowance or youth allowance is subject to a means test & if it is the case that students from well off families are the only ones not getting the allowance then I dont see the problem at all. However I did hear this morning on the radio that the youth allowance bill in under amendment & will soon be underway. I know of people who have spent 6 or 7 years at Uni doing a few expensive courses only to come out & never work in the field they had trained in so never had to pay back the Hecs debt so that is not fair either to taxpayers, one of these people is my Wife's sister. It does happen.
Posted by sk, 11/03/2010 2:15:51 PM, on Port Macquarie News
Australia clearly isnt producing the said doctors and lawyers as posted above cause there are plenty of doctors/lawyers migrating to Australia!!
Posted by stones, 11/03/2010 2:56:06 PM, on Port Macquarie News

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Waiting game: Karen Proud and her daughter Lara talk to Caree Alexander about the uncertainty over youth allowance.
Waiting game: Karen Proud and her daughter Lara talk to Caree Alexander about the uncertainty over youth allowance.

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